19:16:11 <smichel17> #startmeeting 
19:16:11 <hcoop-meetbot> smichel17: Meeting started at 2022-11-26T19:16+0000
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19:16:28 <smichel17> Ooh, it links readthedocs now
19:16:37 <smichel17> that's useful, I always forget how we do it
19:16:55 <smichel17> #topic role call
19:17:07 <keverets> #info keverets
19:17:17 <layline> #info layline
19:17:22 <smichel17> #here smichel17
19:17:40 <robin> #here 
19:17:48 <robin> #here robin
19:17:49 <robin> (?)
19:17:57 <keverets> oh, forgot that was a command in the fork
19:18:00 <keverets> #here keverets
19:18:15 <layline> #here layline
19:18:23 <smichel17> I have to look it up every meeting
19:18:36 <robin> i only remembered thanks to the documentation link :)
19:18:41 <smichel17> #topic scheduling the next meeting
19:19:04 <smichel17> I figured, instead of waiting 2 months and then taking a month to figure out a date, we could just pick one while we're all here
19:20:09 <smichel17> Is this time still best for everyone in general?
19:20:35 <smichel17> We could just pick a Saturday at 2pm in late January or so
19:20:57 <keverets> OK
19:21:04 <smichel17> (Feb would be 3 months, but I think we are a little behind schedule, so this will make up for it)
19:21:05 <layline> I'd prefer earlier in my day (atlantic seaboard)
19:21:07 <robin> sounds good
19:21:16 <robin> checks M-x holidays
19:21:22 <keverets> there needs to be a board meeting in late april as the first meeting of the new board (post election)
19:21:22 <smichel17> layline: 1 or 2 hours earlier?
19:22:23 <keverets> Perhaps January 28 at 12:00 EST (2 hours earlier than this meeting)?
19:22:36 <layline> smichel17: To make a real difference I'd need the meeting to start 4 hours earlier (10:00 EST)
19:22:48 <keverets> I'm fine with 10:00 EST
19:23:07 <robin> i can meet a few hours earlier too
19:23:29 <smichel17> Clinton marked 11:30 EST as the earliest available on Saturday
19:24:03 <layline> It's not the hcoop without Clinton so let's make it high noon on the 28th
19:24:08 <unknown_lamer> ah sorry, I thought today was the 25th
19:24:14 <smichel17> :D
19:24:23 <unknown_lamer> I got the vaccine booster wednesday night and was completely out of it for two days
19:24:38 <unknown_lamer> I had an alarm set for tomorrow and everything ljsdfpsjdf
19:25:23 <unknown_lamer> if everyone wanted to meet jan 28th @ noon EST that works for me, usually don't have anything going on in january
19:25:30 <robin> unknown_lamer, nbd, you're here now, though you should say "#here clinton" or something for the bot
19:25:31 <unknown_lamer> or really any weekend except the new year
19:25:41 <smichel17> I think Jan 28th makes most sense
19:25:43 <unknown_lamer> #here clinton
19:26:12 <smichel17> Is 10:00 too early for you?
19:27:48 <unknown_lamer> 10:00 on a weekend is hard for me because I am chronically sleep deprived and usually don't even wake up until 11 when I can
19:28:03 <smichel17> Alright, let's go with noon then
19:28:19 <unknown_lamer> I could do 10:00 I might just be a little groggy (not that you can see that through the screen ;) )
19:28:22 <smichel17> #info Scheduled next board meeting for 2020-01-28 at 12:00 Eastern Time
19:29:01 <smichel17> robin: you had a #topic to bring up?
19:29:39 <robin> #topic Registered agent
19:30:46 <robin> there is a wiki link to our registered agent, but does anyone know (1) whether we use a shared account for that, or if i should just register my own, and (2) the deadline for paying them?
19:31:01 <keverets> some info on that is on https://wiki.hcoop.net/BoardMemberDuties and https://wiki.hcoop.net/RegisteredAgent
19:31:01 <unknown_lamer> We prepaid a large amount before
19:31:14 <keverets> iirc, I had to create my own account (there was not a shared one)
19:31:55 <robin> keverets, good to know, i just wondered if they required verification or something
19:32:33 <robin> if we're paid-up for this year, i'll just try to check our account and document things for future secretaries
19:32:38 <keverets> not that I recall. Their site did throw errors when accessed from Canada, so I had to setup a proxy via marsh to get there at the time
19:33:08 <keverets> sorry for not documenting the procedure more fully
19:34:10 <unknown_lamer> I think I have an active account in the entity management system
19:35:48 <unknown_lamer> or it might just be board@hcoop.net
19:36:17 <unknown_lamer> jan 2022: "Went ahead and did the 5 years at $100 per year as it seems the first support person was either unclear or misspoke, and the board already agreed to 5 @ $100"
19:36:20 <smichel17> robin: when you update the docs, I would suggest trying to make it a more explicit how-to guide (https://diataxis.fr/how-to-guides/)
19:37:14 <robin> smichel17, ty, that looks useful
19:37:14 <smichel17> (or reference, if there's just some info you are recording)
19:37:25 <robin> unknown_lamer, oh, nice
19:37:29 <robin> i guess i will just...
19:37:58 <unknown_lamer> we can add users, I just found it
19:38:25 <robin> #action robin will try to access hcoop's RA account and update the board-member documentation
19:39:28 <smichel17> robin: do you have what you need from this topic?
19:39:45 <smichel17> If so, I suggest we move on to a financial update, which I think is the only remaining topic
19:40:05 <smichel17> I also have some thoughts I'd enjoy chatting about afterwards, but don't want to hold up the meeting for
19:40:06 <robin> smichel17, yes, i'll just ask board@ for help if i need it (clinton can probably help me with the EMS stuff)
19:40:12 <unknown_lamer> I think I just invited you to the EMS
19:40:13 <robin> also, just one action
19:40:17 <robin> for me
19:40:28 <robin> thx clinton :)
19:40:37 <smichel17> 👍️
19:40:46 <smichel17> #topic financial update
19:40:53 <unknown_lamer> I do not have a financial update ready because I was going to square away a few pending bills tonight and get that assembled before tomorrow because I thought tomorrow was the 26th, I can email it when I'm done.
19:41:15 <smichel17> Ok, we can take an action here
19:41:53 <unknown_lamer> #action clinton will assemble a financial update and email it to the board by November 27th
19:42:25 <smichel17> Anyone else have things they'd like to discuss before we adjourn?
19:42:48 <robin> (imho it needn't be rushed unless we're actively having financial problems tbh)
19:42:52 <keverets> no
19:42:55 <robin> yes, a topic and action for me
19:43:07 <keverets> (nothing from me to discuss, I should be clear)
19:43:14 <robin> #topic hcoop meetbot
19:43:23 <layline> Nothing for me to discuss
19:43:48 <robin> #action robin will try to set up a new meetbot install and document whatever secretaries need to do to run it
19:44:14 <robin> that's all for me i think
19:44:33 <smichel17> Actually I guess I have one quick one I'd like to get in the meeting notes
19:44:43 <smichel17> #topic coop momentum
19:45:22 <smichel17> I just wanted to acknowledge that we've been kind of coasting for a while, and I've had some ideas/plans to change momentum for a while (e.g. connecting with other coops) that I haven't particularly followed through with
19:45:42 <smichel17> e.g. I still have an outstanding task to reach out to MayFirst from 6 months ago
19:46:13 <smichel17> And to say, I don't think I really have bandwidth to drive something like that right now
19:47:04 <smichel17> Snowdrift.coop has been picking up so that's taking more of my time, and I have some family medical stuff to stay on top of
19:47:48 <smichel17> I _do_ have the bandwidth to help out with something, it's just a little much for me to be organizing it
19:48:43 <smichel17> So I guess this is kind of a, "if anyone has stuff they'd like a hand with, please get my attention!" sort of announcement
19:48:56 <smichel17> (fin)
19:49:52 <robin> i have an idea but it would take a while for me to set it up: we might be able to get more users and publicity, at least, if i set up an ActivityPub server (mastodon, pleroma, whatever) for nc triangle dsa
19:50:19 <smichel17> I signed up for social.coop recently (have not used it at all yet) and hear that they're in a similar boat to us
19:50:45 <unknown_lamer> main issue with plemora was lack of containerization
19:51:01 <smichel17> meaning, they have enough money to pay server costs but no paid sysadmin -> "keep the lights on" time spent on infra
19:51:02 <unknown_lamer> because changing the epmd port is difficult and you can only have one per physical server
19:51:41 <robin> nctdsa is changing its structure (from independent city branches to a sort of multi-branch federation) so it'd might be a good opportunity to try it
19:51:41 <keverets> https://togethr.party uses pleroma (and was soapbox, but now straight pleroma I believe)
19:52:34 <unknown_lamer> podman might actually work though, I did get it running a container that was stored in afs and it seemed ok, albeit on debian unstable. iirc we need to upgrade the os for podman
19:52:36 <robin> unknown_lamer, there are some new-ish AP servers like https://jointakahe.org/ that might be better for hcoop, not sure about the technical details though
19:53:10 <unknown_lamer> I am dedicated to getting ready for my annual winter solstice gathering and a few major projects at work until january though
19:53:21 <keverets> are there any decisions/actions needed from this current topic?
19:53:29 <unknown_lamer> but realistically not sure when I'll have the energy to work on OS upgrades again (really need to deal with gibran...)
19:54:21 <robin> keverets, i don't think so, it's just a random idea somewhat related to smichel17's, i probably won't have time to work on it til january
19:54:50 <smichel17> I don't have any decisions/actions, just felt it was important for the coop-momentum topic to stay top of mind
19:54:57 <smichel17> to, uh, not lose momentup
19:55:08 <smichel17> *momentum
19:56:13 <smichel17> Any other conversation or topics before we adjourn?
19:56:29 <keverets> none from me
19:56:37 <robin> none from me
19:57:14 <layline> none from me
19:57:40 <unknown_lamer> nothing from me
19:57:49 <smichel17> ok, in that case
19:57:51 <smichel17> #endmeeting