15:08:35 <smichel17> #startmeeting 
15:08:37 <hcoop-meetbot> smichel17: Meeting started at 2023-03-26T15:08+0000
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15:08:51 <keverets> attendance, etc
15:08:53 <unknown_lamer> #here clinton
15:08:55 <keverets> (meetbot is slow)
15:09:05 <smichel17> #here smichel17
15:09:09 <keverets> #topic attendance
15:09:12 <keverets> #here keverets
15:09:25 <keverets> (not sure I can set topic as non-chair... this will be fun)
15:09:42 <smichel17> #chair keverets
15:09:44 <hcoop-meetbot> smichel17: Current chairs: keverets, smichel17
15:10:27 <smichel17> #topic Finances
15:11:06 <smichel17> unknown_lamer: want to copy-paste that again?
15:11:09 <unknown_lamer> $8336.63 in the bank
15:11:11 <unknown_lamer> Member balances are $2002
15:11:14 <unknown_lamer> Expenses have remained the same ($355.10 + $10 + yearly expenses), but Linode is raising prices by a dollar next month.
15:11:16 <unknown_lamer> Incoming dues are $518/mo but there are 15 members who are delinquent and may be expelled (will aim to actually deal with that next month or farm out contacting everyone to someone else, I continue to suffer from some pain from typing and am limiting computer activity outside of work)
15:11:22 <unknown_lamer> If all were booted that would reduce monthly dues to $413/month
15:11:44 <unknown_lamer> number of members behind on dues dropped at least
15:11:58 <smichel17> So, still in the black at least
15:12:23 <keverets> is there any mechanism for distributing duties? Just solicit a volunteer or anything else?
15:12:48 <unknown_lamer> nothing formal, it's not like we're employees and can be ordered to do things
15:13:06 <unknown_lamer> I suppose if someone didn't do something they could be brought up for expulsion but that is extreme and really only for something like e.g. violating of tos
15:13:11 <keverets> ah, I guess for contacting people no special permissions are required
15:13:36 <smichel17> Technically we might have some liability as board members, this is an area of the law I'm not too sure about
15:14:03 <smichel17> My mom was on the board of a non-profit summer camp that I attended and they had some insurance for board members in the event there was a lawsuit or something
15:14:14 <smichel17> (that is the extent of my knowledge)
15:14:17 <unknown_lamer> someone was supposed to research that but no one ever did
15:14:28 <keverets> was that in the past year, or prior?
15:14:36 <unknown_lamer> two or three years or maybe even four or five
15:14:39 <keverets> ah
15:14:58 <unknown_lamer> but afaik it's just gross neglience or doing crimes that would be a problem
15:15:09 <unknown_lamer> since hcoop is properly incorporated and all that
15:15:53 <keverets> that's handy then
15:16:16 <smichel17> Back to finances for a moment, I think given the timing of this meeting we can leave it to the next board if they want to take any action to change balance sheets, budget looks good to me for now
15:16:28 <keverets> seems fine to me, too
15:17:15 <smichel17> It would be nice to wrap up member expulsion for the incoming board, but given unknown_lamer has one more year and can assist the next treasurer I think we're ok on that too
15:17:48 <unknown_lamer> It's a bit iffy expelling people days before an election, and again typing hurts me and I have to reserve what I can so I can keep working
15:18:23 <smichel17> After sounds good to me then. If there's nothing else on this topic I'd like to briefly discuss the election
15:18:37 <keverets> go for it
15:18:40 <smichel17> Although actually after the meeting would be fine too
15:18:47 <smichel17> #topic Election
15:19:15 <unknown_lamer> and dealing with deleting 15 people from the coop will involve quite a bit of obnoxiously tedious typing, and if any return after being expelled even more obnoxiously tedious typing and work to reinstate their accounts since the restore process doesn't quite work (changes the PTS ID and leaves ACLs broken among other things)
15:19:41 <keverets> with guidance/template I can assist with both of those
15:19:44 <smichel17> (thumbsup) ((not sure if bot handles emoji well))
15:19:54 <keverets> good unit test to try
15:20:21 <smichel17> Do we want a crash and lost meeting minutes? I don't
15:20:30 <smichel17> I'll do a separate test after this concludes
15:20:37 <keverets> I don't have high faith in the bot anymore in any case
15:20:41 <smichel17> Anyway
15:20:45 <smichel17> #topic Election actually
15:20:48 <smichel17> We currently have two accepted nominations, and need 3 in order to fill board seats
15:20:50 <keverets> :)
15:21:26 <keverets> I was kind of waiting to see if anyone else wanted to accept. If not I can fill the roster
15:21:41 <unknown_lamer> Not sure who is even active to be volunteered anymore
15:21:45 <keverets> every year intend to step back, but I can continue my roll as a seat warmer
15:21:58 <smichel17> Yeah I kind of feel similarly.
15:22:15 <smichel17> Well actually I'd like to be more active, but I don't know when that will be a priority
15:22:59 <smichel17> Ok, so as long as I know we'll have 3 people who accept nominations I don't have to keep spamming the announce list
15:23:27 <keverets> I may need to be reminded closer to deadline in case I get distracted, but otherwise it's all good
15:23:32 <smichel17> Hopefully someone else will show up before Friday (and then you can also accept and it won't be an uncontested election!)
15:24:04 <smichel17> That's all from me, happy to adjourn if there's no other topics
15:24:11 <unknown_lamer> I've got nothing else
15:24:13 <keverets> sounds good to me
15:24:25 <smichel17> #endmeeting '