00:17:57 <smichel17> #startmeeting 
00:17:58 <hcoop-meetbot> smichel17: Meeting started at 2023-04-28T00:17+0000
00:18:01 <hcoop-meetbot> smichel17: Current chairs: smichel17
00:18:05 <hcoop-meetbot> smichel17: Useful commands: #action #info #idea #link #topic #motion #vote #close #endmeeting
00:18:09 <hcoop-meetbot> smichel17: See also: https://hcoop-meetbot.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
00:18:14 <keverets> (it's slow)
00:18:41 <smichel17> Yeah I was wondering if I had forgotten and maybe it was #beginmeeting :P
00:18:53 <unknown_lamer> supybot is using a lot of cpu
00:18:56 <unknown_lamer> but as long as it works
00:19:05 <smichel17> #topic Role Call
00:19:19 <smichel17> #here smichel17
00:19:24 <keverets> #here keverets
00:19:26 <robin> #here robin
00:19:44 <kzootech> #here rvbc
00:19:49 <unknown_lamer> #here clinton
00:20:00 <smichel17> #topic Agenda building
00:20:12 <smichel17> I don't think we made any agenda in advance, right?
00:20:19 <robin> not afaik
00:20:39 <keverets> yes, elect officers
00:20:41 <robin> oh, "elect officers" https://wiki.hcoop.net/IrcMeetings/20230427
00:20:43 <smichel17> So, Elect Officers, get contact info for pings such as was needed to summon me, treasury report, anything else?
00:21:00 <keverets> https://wiki.hcoop.net/IrcMeetings/20230427
00:21:32 <unknown_lamer> Do we need another update? It's only been a month, finances are effectively the same.
00:22:03 <smichel17> I just figured for the new board, but I guess it's mostly the same as the old board and we can link kzootech to last meeting's notes
00:22:08 <keverets> let's just elect officers and leave the rest for another time
00:22:47 <smichel17> Sounds good to me
00:22:49 <unknown_lamer> I can gather the data now if needed but it's not very exciting, and I'm going to send the budget proposal for 2023 (late, bleh) this weekend (for real this time... just need to crunch some numbers for what budget we need since we are going to split gibran up and have some overlap for a bit)
00:23:40 <smichel17> (Going to start the next topic momentarily, speak now if you want something else added to agenda)
00:23:46 <kzootech> i can look at the one from last meeting if folks are trying to do this quickly
00:24:49 <smichel17> Maybe could briefly discuss anything we'd like to try to do this year? Waiting a quarter to start an initiative is kinda a long time
00:25:31 <keverets> we started late, and have one key action with a near deadline. Let's focus on that
00:25:33 <smichel17> (Personally I don't have anything, but if anyone does besides keeping the lights on..)
00:25:51 <smichel17> #topic Elections
00:26:22 <smichel17> I would prefer not to be president again, would be up for treasurer or maybe secretary
00:26:56 <smichel17> Difference between doing stuff that needs to happen at a certain time vs just doing stuff that needs to happen
00:27:28 <smichel17> I anticipate I'll have a better home/focus situation this year than last but don't think I did a great job of making sure everything happened on time
00:27:33 <kzootech> right now i think i am too new to take on an office position
00:28:06 <robin> https://wiki.hcoop.net/BoardMemberDuties are the roles, for reference
00:28:09 <smichel17> I was president my first year on the board
00:28:39 <unknown_lamer> swap president and secretary between robin and smichel17 perhaps?
00:28:58 <smichel17> It's not *hard* per se, you just need to be reliable/timely
00:29:29 <smichel17> I think it'd also be good to have someone besides keverets be secretary so someone else can learn how to do the bot and whatnot :)
00:29:31 <unknown_lamer> I am also fine not being treasurer and in the short term creating a read-only account (all that we can do without going to the bank) until we figure out authorized signers or moving banks
00:30:37 <kzootech> i would probably consider an officer position next year
00:30:51 <keverets> I agree with someone else being secretary again
00:31:04 <keverets> kzootech: consider president
00:31:11 <keverets> good intro to things
00:31:26 <keverets> but if robin was game for that, then that would be good too
00:32:44 <robin> i could do secretary or president (or just a minister without portfolio or whatever it's called), with a slight preference for secretary since i didn't get around to some tasks last year (e.g. git-ifying the board site and running meetbot myself)
00:33:49 <smichel17> Do we use #motion for nomination or #info?
00:34:00 <unknown_lamer> Since I am trying to focus on some major sysadmin tasks this year I would really prefer not to be president, but if needed I can fence off treasurer and do it. Can't promise much more than making sure all our meetings are scheduled and ensuring things are filed with the government when they need to be though.
00:34:03 <kzootech> hmm, i think i would suggest robin if smichel17 and robin want to swap, id be interested in president but i think this year isnt the right time for me
00:34:40 <smichel17> keverets: Would you be up for president this year?
00:34:53 <keverets> smichel17: I'd prefer not, but can if no one else will take it
00:35:33 <unknown_lamer> So it seems it's either robin or me then, but only me if smichel17 will accept the nomination for treasurer (I'm fine either way, although one thing is treasurer does require processing payments and whatnot at least once a week and ideally as they come in)
00:36:13 <smichel17> I'm up for treasurer, a consistent responsibility should be easier for me honestly than a once a quarter responsibility
00:38:03 <unknown_lamer> robin: so, did you want to take on president this year or ?
00:38:07 <smichel17> keverets: Would you rather be secretary, if robin is up for president?
00:38:50 <keverets> between the two, I'd rather secretary
00:39:45 <robin> unknown_lamer, secretary preferred, but i'm willing to be president if needed
00:39:48 <kzootech> nominates robin president, keverets secretary, and smichel17 treasurer
00:40:12 <keverets> I'm fine with either
00:40:23 <keverets> kzootech: usually a #info to nominate & second
00:40:40 <keverets> then a #motion, then #vote
00:40:55 <keverets> well, "#vote +1" I think
00:40:58 <robin> keverets, you don't mind between secretary and president?
00:41:04 <keverets> robin: not terribly
00:41:16 <unknown_lamer> well, if everyone is ok with that arrangement of nominees that would be fine by me too, I will obviously handle the overdue batch of member explusions and then get smichel17 up to speed
00:41:58 <unknown_lamer> smichel17: but if you didn't want to be treasurer I am also 100% fine doing that for one more year (but am announcing my intention that I would really prefer not to next year)
00:42:15 <smichel17> (for the 3rd time, I'm fine with treasurer)
00:42:35 <smichel17> keverets, robin: To resolve this impasse, I suggest one of you nominate the other for secretary
00:43:03 <keverets> #info nominate robin for secretary
00:43:13 <robin> i accept
00:43:15 <smichel17> #info second robin for secretary
00:43:24 <robin> or will accept, or whatever
00:43:33 <smichel17> #info nominate keverets for president
00:43:54 <smichel17> (We have a lot of probably-unecessary formality around this process given the board is only 5 people)
00:44:05 <kzootech> #info second keverets for president
00:44:10 <keverets> accept
00:44:45 <unknown_lamer> #info nominate smichel17 for treasurer
00:44:56 <keverets> #info second smichel17 for treasurer
00:45:25 <smichel17> #accepted smichel17 for treasurer
00:46:09 <unknown_lamer> alright so we just need to vote real quick on this slate of officers and I think we're good for now
00:46:15 <robin> +1
00:46:37 <smichel17> #motion keverets for president, robin for secretary, smichel17 for treasurer
00:46:38 <hcoop-meetbot> smichel17: Voting is open
00:46:47 <smichel17> #vote +1
00:46:49 <keverets> #vote +1
00:46:58 <kzootech> #vote +1
00:47:00 <unknown_lamer> #vote +1
00:47:04 <robin> #vote +1
00:47:17 <smichel17> #accepted keverets for president, robin for secretary, smichel17 for treasurer
00:47:19 <keverets> (now the #close)
00:47:24 <smichel17> #close 
00:47:52 <kzootech> hooray, we did it!
00:47:57 <smichel17> :D
00:48:01 <robin> \o/
00:48:33 <unknown_lamer> #action clinton will set up a paypal and wellsfargo account for smichel17 to access accounts and transfer stripe credentials (unless stripe also supports multiple viewers now, in which case I'll set that up too) in the next week
00:48:35 <smichel17> unknown_lamer: Maybe Sunday at 1 or 2 we can touch base about treasurer duties?
00:48:51 <smichel17> IIRC that's a time we're both around
00:49:05 <unknown_lamer> this sunday not sure, I should know what I'm doing after tomorrow but I am behind on a lot around the house (but then again it's raining sunday...)
00:49:24 <smichel17> ok
00:49:41 <unknown_lamer> on the admin side, I'll make sure keverets can post to hcoop-announce right now
00:50:08 <unknown_lamer> and then robin needs to file the board form with PA online tomorrow ideally
00:50:19 <robin> yeah
00:51:04 <unknown_lamer> keverets: confirmed you have posting perms to hcoop-announce already
00:51:49 <smichel17> Anyone want to discuss other things tonight?
00:52:27 <keverets> unknown_lamer: ok. I'm also supposed to update ~hcoop/.domtool/hcoop.net
00:52:30 <unknown_lamer> I'm fine, I was going to knock out these couple of quick things in getting you access and then have some bean tacos and watch b5 I think
00:52:34 <keverets> but that's read-only for me
00:53:18 <unknown_lamer> keverets: hrm that probably should read "direct the sysadmins to ..." for that stuff
00:53:27 <unknown_lamer> since you would need domtool root privs for that
00:53:37 <kzootech> are there any on-going projects with hcoop that need support right now?
00:53:42 <unknown_lamer> I did all of those already
00:54:06 <keverets> unknown_lamer: ah, wiki needs updating then. Will do that
00:54:08 <smichel17> Oh, I wanted to suggest that everyone send a secondary contact info (e.g. cell number) to keverets and/or everyone
00:54:53 <smichel17> In case something like today happens where I forgot to put the meeting on the calendar and unknown_lamer pinged me via text
00:55:25 <kzootech> should i pm my number?
00:55:29 <keverets> perhaps people could just put it in their $HOME/contact or something so it doesn't need to be shared around?
00:55:42 <kzootech> i could do that too
00:55:45 <keverets> what's a very hcoop-y way to do this?
00:55:50 <smichel17> member portal!
00:56:06 <unknown_lamer> should be in the portal
00:56:09 <smichel17> https://members.hcoop.net/portal/contact
00:56:14 <unknown_lamer> you can set contact details to only be viewable by admins
00:56:22 <smichel17> Actually it looks like my cell is already there :)
00:56:25 <unknown_lamer> I keep forgetting we have that even though it's been there forever
00:56:27 <robin> yeah, i just updated my contact info
00:56:33 <unknown_lamer> We should add signal as a contact type if someone hasn't
00:56:44 <keverets> "AIM screen name" is the default? seriously?
00:56:51 <keverets> Signal is a contact type alread
00:56:53 <keverets> already
00:57:15 <kzootech> remebers aim!
00:57:40 <smichel17> Alphabetical order :)
00:57:43 <kzootech> i put my # in the member directory
00:57:47 <unknown_lamer> keverets: I think we set that up in ... 2003?
00:58:00 <unknown_lamer> could use some pruning
00:58:33 <keverets> I don't know how to specify my Signal ID
00:58:35 <kzootech> i think aim should stay, its charming lol
00:58:39 <keverets> is that my phone number in some form?
00:58:48 <smichel17> signal id is just phone number, no?
00:58:56 <unknown_lamer> ah right
00:58:58 <smichel17> Though I guess usernames or something is coming
00:59:00 <robin> yes, it's just your phone number iianm
00:59:11 <keverets> I'd prefer jabber anyway. Everyone has one for being on hcoop, don't they?
00:59:15 <kzootech> im on signal so if anyone wants to contact me there feel free
00:59:46 <keverets> just need to install Conversations (if Android based) and login with hcoop credentials I think
00:59:57 <keverets> smichel17: in what form? +1xxxyyyzzzz ? something else?
01:00:22 <keverets> JID is straightforward. username@hcoop.net
01:00:35 <kzootech> i dont think i know about jabber..
01:00:47 <smichel17> I put in the +1 in the directory but leaving it in or omitting it should both reach me
01:01:00 <smichel17> keverets: Yeah, irc/matrix/jabber (all linked anyway) is generally what I prefer too, but I don't have it on my phone, so for timely pings signal or sms is much more reliable
01:01:12 <keverets> kzootech: https://wiki.hcoop.net/IrcChannel has a bit of info on using it to access this channel
01:01:20 <smichel17> (not strictly true, I do have matrix on my phone, but it's less reliable)
01:01:31 <unknown_lamer> smichel17: for sunday, I'll check with you later tomorrow about a time -- we can at least go over the process for running dues since we need to do that sunday night anyway
01:01:41 <unknown_lamer> then during the week as payments come in we can go over that
01:01:53 <smichel17> Sounds good. I will put that on my calendar now and adjust the time later
01:02:15 <kzootech> keverets: cool, ill take a look at it
01:02:17 <unknown_lamer> should be brief on sunday at least
01:02:32 <smichel17> d
01:03:49 <unknown_lamer> it is now officially black bean taco time, will check irc in a bit but mostly done computing for the night
01:04:10 <keverets> smichel17: did you #endmeeting ?
01:04:25 <smichel17> ok. Did not see any other topics, so..
01:04:28 <smichel17> #endmeeting